WHEE! WHEE! WHEE!
Unfortunately, my ARTWALK today at Fort Bonifacio High Street was cancelled due to the weather. It will be rescheduled on another Saturday soon they say. The last ARTWALK I did was rained on, so I'm glad I'm going to be given another chance to do it on a nicer day.Meanwhile, here is the interview I had today with Tanya Lara of the Philippine Star. Thanks, Tanya. It was really cool having coffee with you last week right before my first ARTWALK.
MODERN LIVING SECTION:
A walk in the rain with Carlos Celdran
CRAZY QUILT By Tanya T. Lara Saturday, May 17, 2008
Tour guide and performer Carlos Celdran thinks he’s in on the biggest secret in the world: That it’s actually fun to live in this country. We may have hours-long traffic and garbage in the streets, but we also have Imelda, the CCP and Rizal Monument, Ongpin Street, and endless strange and bizarre stories about life here that make for one hell of an interesting tour.
Wearing a top hat and an Ilustrado costume during his tours, Carlos likens living here to playing a video game, something that can be mastered “and once you master it, you’re addicted.”
The art enthusiast/fine arts graduate/history and architecture buff says the best thing about living in Metro Manila is that “It’s constantly changing, it’s organic, it’s challenging. Nothing is what it seems. If I’m the only one who knows Manila is this fantastic, then lucky me! It’s rich in history. We keep forgetting that we’re a player in terms of global history; we keep thinking we’re just this small backwater town.”
Before he blew into town and started his now-famous walking tours, Carlos was the youngest editorial cartoonist at 14 for a major newspaper, he was a Fine Arts student at UP and later at Rhode Island School of Design. When he was in his third year in Rhode Island, he found out that he was allergic to oil paint.
“After paying all that tuition, right? I couldn’t just drop it, so I took up performance art as my thesis. I was still able to graduate from the painting department — without doing a single painting!”
After school, he went to work for the Socrates Sculpture Park in New York, which used to be a landfill and an illegal dumpsite until artists and community members under the leadership of artist Mark di Suvero transformed it into an exhibition space for large-scale works in 1986. Here Carlos learned all about public art and got to know the major artists in New York, and at the same time he was interning with the Blue Man Group.
“Blue Man Group exposed me to performance art and how it can be a tourist trap, so I kind of made my own version of a tourist trap for Manila,” he says with a laugh. “Because when you’re in New York you gotta watch Blue Man Group; the same way that when you’re in Manila you gotta do the Carlos Celdran tours.”
On a very hot and humid Saturday afternoon, Carlos sat down with us to talk about public art, the country, our culture and history, and his tours. Naturally — and characteristically of the Philippines — it rained right before he started his tour.
Ever the trouper, Carlos led his dozen or so fans through a wonderful walking tour in the rain.
Excerpts:
THE PHILIPPINE STAR: Did you ever regret having to abandon fine arts?
CARLOS CELDRAN: No, because I’ve never been an introvert. I was born with the skill to draw. As a child I was a cartoonist for Samahan ng mga Kartunista ng Pilipinas. I was the youngest member of SKP, working for BusinessWorld. It was just assumed that I would be painting. Being a painter requires you to stay in a room, lock it, and then… depression…and work your issues out on a canvas. You know what, I got over that really fast!
You look like a genuine extrovert.
I like being with people, I like being out there with the rest of the world. There’s more ways to express my artistic self than through my hands. But learning how to draw was necessary because you do need to learn the rules before you break them. Fine arts allowed me to get my basics in, my art history. I brought those skills to my performance and my tours. My tours teach people how to look at Manila in another way.
Do you include local legends in your tours, like the ones in Nick Joaquin’s ‘70s book Fairy Tales for Groovy Children?
No, my parents were conservative. They were so square, so Catholic, they probably would have said, “Don’t touch that” because the word “groovy” is in the title.
What were your first walking tours like?
Oh, very simple. The tours I used to do were for the Heritage Conservation Society, which was under Toti Villalon. We would just go around old parts of Manila like Quiapo, FEU and Luneta. You know, choo-choo-choo to the left, choo-choo-choo to the right. It didn’t have any of my interest in performance art yet.
When they reorganized the structure of the society, I took the tours with me. I started to put on the top hat and costumes, to really make it more interesting for myself. And then I added the pictures, the visual element, the musical element and the rest is history.
The first time I read about you some years ago was in a foreign magazine.
Cool. Not even here, eh? Time magazine was my breakout. I also had one in a Dutch magazine in the beginning.
What are the common elements in your tours of Intramuros, Imelda and Chinatown?
My tours always have to do with art, culture, history and architecture. For my Imelda tour, we explore the architecture of Lindy Locsin and try to relate the feeling of that era to the architecture, to the life and aspirations of Imelda. Because, really, without her ambitions, that building (the CCP Main Theater) would never have been built. My tour is kinda like the unauthorized biography of Imelda.
What kind of feedback do you get, what’s the most bizarre?
Some are offended, like a lot of Americans don’t realize that they were the ones who blew up Manila in World War II. And when I try to tell them that it was actually MacArthur who destroyed Manila, which is why Manila lost its spiritual center and its heritage, they get offended. Not that I use the word “imperialist” purposely or anything like that, but there’s a lot that can be learned from what’s going on in the world right now, especially with the Iraq War and relating it to Philippine history in 1898 — a country that didn’t need to be freed — and imposing your own imprint upon it. And then World War II came along. The big disappointment. We were dragged into a war that wasn’t our own, and we were destroyed.
How do you do your research?
Books, the Internet.
Was Renato Constantino a source of history?
A lot of my "leftist" leanings, yes. I came from UP — from 1990 to 1992 — then Rhode Island from 1993 to 1996. We were the first Fine Arts batch to move from the Main Library to the Vet Med building. There’s always been that “art for a social cause” in UP. But mostly I was influenced by Nick Joaquin and all those books like Gilda Cordero-Fernando’s The History of the Burgis, and The Streets of Manila. It was important for me to have history taught in a very entertaining, graphic manner. It was the first time that I was seeing history that wasn’t cold or seen through a foreigner’s eyes. These books were written for and by Filipinos. The History of the Burgis, for me, is the bible for explaining everything here. Period.
When did the costumes come in?
Later on, just to keep things interesting. If I got bored, you’ll all get bored. It became necessary when I was doing tours downtown, because if I wore something plain, you would lose me going through Quiapo, but now you see this guy with a funny hat and an Ilustrado outfit.
For the Imelda tour, I wear bellbottoms, a Ninoy T-shirt and a Marcos pin. I try as much as I can to not take sides in any of my tours. I try to be an equal-opportunity offender. If I can’t treat everyone nicely, then I’ll treat everybody badly.
What’s your favorite building?
The CCP with all its warts. It’s a wonderful marriage of traditional and contemporary. It’s something that’s undeniably Filipino and yet it fits in the international stage. It’s dramatic, bold, pioneering; it took guts to build something like that. It’s really one of the first monumental things we built for ourselves. All those churches, think about it, they were done for religion, for Spain. It took Imelda to build the CCP.
I love Lindy Locsin, but his buildings seem to me closed off and dark.
I think it was also the times, it was all about air-con back then. Imelda wanted to see the CCP against the sunset. Everybody said, “Why not face the building the other way so you see the sunset when you’re coming in?” But actually it looks better when you look at it from the front and the colors are behind it. Locsin was brave and also a victim of the times — without Madame and her endless purse strings to fund his projects, he wouldn’t have been able to do what he did. No artist or architect today has the same opportunities that he had. I’m obsessed about Lindy Locsin.
Do you like Imelda?
I do recognize her importance and contributions to the country. I give her props for that.
Then and now, parang may sarili siyang mundo no?
Oo naman, pero there’s a fine line between sanity and insanity. All the characters in the world naman were lukaret di ba? The only problem with her was that she was loony on our government coffers and she played out her issues on the world stage. That’s the only part I cannot forgive her for.
Your tours are mostly composed of what kind of groups?
Puti — North Americans, English, Australians — and a few Japanese who speak English. A lot of Lonely Planet readers because I’m in their guidebooks, expats whose parents are here and they don’t know what to do with them. My No. 2 is Fil-Ams, like from Toronto or the US, who are all looking for their soul, their identity. You know what, what makes you think you’ll find any answers here? You have identity crisis over there? Same shit here! Except that we’re here. And then my last one is students.
Which subject do your tourists love best?
Imelda. You know, we made the Marcoses as much as they made us.
What’s the question you get asked most?
“So, where did it all go wrong?”
And your answer?
After 1986, we went back to the 19th century. We brought back the landed gentry and the Catholic Church to run the country.
Is that off the record?
No, you can put it (laughs). This is UP talking — as I eat in Starbucks.
And speaking of Imelda, my dad sent me the funniest text today.
"CARLOS. MET IMELDA AT D HOSPITAL. INTRODUCED MYSELF AS D DAD F CARLOS CELDRAN AND SHE ANSWERED YEAH AND IM D MOM OF BONGBONG. TOUCHE."
Which proves a theory set by my friend, Junjun: "Nobody is every ready to talk to Imelda, but Imelda is always ready to talk to you."
Thank you Drinoboi for the picture.
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18 Comments:
Funny interview, your personality comes out loud and clear! Looking forward to tomorrow, and crossing my fingers it doesn't rain, or at least, doesn't rain too hard.
Bravo Carlos!
As for Imelda, people are so unfair about her. I give her credit for her vision. Her projects at the CCP complex are being copied by Singapore. Not only that, the CCP was built ahead of the Sydney Opera House!
I really don't want to start an online flame war or anything, because I don't think it's the best place to argue politics. But I just want to say to Maria Bartiromo: Before you say people are unfair to Imelda, perhaps you should read up a bit on your recent history. I give her credit for some of her vision, too, but I lambast her for how she went about it. Ever heard of the Film Center scandal and what's buried under that white elephant? And I haven't even gotten into her non-edificial or non-arts-related sins, which are a-plenty.
I don't deny the legacy Imelda left us in the arts, but I am angered and saddened that most Filipinos seem to have completely forgotten the FAR less positive and possibly longer-lasting legacies of the Marcos regime. (And yes, Imelda was very much a part of it; her husband did not act alone. How do you think she afforded her lavish lifestyle?) It is truly one of the Filipinos' worst characteristics that we forget too easily. How can we learn from mistakes and "move on," as so many say we should do, if we shrug off the past as if it never happened? Besides, why should we forgive the Marcoses for their many sins, when they have never shown the tiniest speck of remorse? Lindy Locsin's buildings, while impressive, cannot mitigate what they did. To the countless victims of the Marcoses, the CCP complex is no consolation at all.
Katrina. You do have a point.
But actually, truth be told. It is true that people died during the construction of the Film Center.
But having people buried in it's walls. Ulp.. I run the risk of being lambasted for this... is NOT TRUE. I swear. It's not. Don't you think if it was, some relative would have come forward and demanded the bodies be removed by now?
Dare I say, there are no bodies buried in the walls. There really aren't.
True. The bitch did waste a lot of our money on shopping trips and her lavish ways and she did abuse her position more than once to the detriment of many innocent people.
I'm not saying forgive the Marcoses and let things slide. I'm just saying that when it came to arts and uplifting the Philippine image (in the early days ha) perhaps credit should be given where it's due and that's it. And only it.
I beg your "Pardon" Carlos. Did you say "Bitch"?
You should be glad they don't make "IVORY" soap anymore!
hi carlos, i am a big fan of your blog, and an even bigger fan of your politics. you seem know pretty much everything so i was just wondering if i could ask you something. do you remember the old abs-cbn sarimanok logo from the late 90's? i was wondering where i could possibly get a hold of the image as i couldn't find any in the internet, for some strange reason.
your tours look awesome and i would love to take one the first chance i get when i come back to the motherland. i was born and raised in the visayas, in antique, and manila has never appealed to me. in fact, i hated manila. now i live in new york and you just made me fall in love with manila
Thanks Carlos. Exactly my point. As always, you are the point man for objectivity.
I don't want to start a political exchange here Katrina but let us all enjoy the tourism potential of these structures instead of perorating on propagandas of the past.
The Dutch can shout to high heavens about the atrocities of Hitler when they see Anne Frank's house and the East Germans can whine along the wall perimeter about their communist past but look at how Amsterdam and East Berlin are raking all the tourism dollars now.
Lavish lifestyle? Knowing the Filipinos, not even Abalos nor Hernando Perez will go to jail. Trust me.
Oops. Is bitch a bad word ba?
I could swear that it wasn't.
Sorry about that.
Cool! Good job, Carlos. You're the man!
you sure are funny! can't wait to be on one of your tours! and when my kids reach gradeschool, i sure hope you're still around because i would recommend you as their tourguide. =)
btw, is your dad dr celdran? one of the best pedias around?
cheers!
It's inevitable that politics is gonna be dragged here....
Imelda, and the Marcoses... it can be said that they did a lot more harm than good. They wanted a "New Republic" which in theory was good but then they screwed everything up.
BUT hey, if you compare to what they stole from the country, isn't that pittance compared to the money and opportunities wasted after 1986?! Carlos is right, the landed gentry and the church ran the show and now everything is shit.
It's inevitable that politics is gonna be dragged here....
Imelda, and the Marcoses... it can be said that they did a lot more harm than good. They wanted a "New Republic" which in theory was good but then they screwed everything up.
BUT hey, if you compare to what they stole from the country, isn't that pittance compared to the money and opportunities wasted after 1986?! Carlos is right, the landed gentry and the church ran the show and now everything is shit.
hi carlos! we joined your walking tour of intramuros (san agustin & casa manila) last saturday morning (5/18/2008). loved it! thank you, sir, ive learned a lot!!! my guest (the VERY tall english man) enjoyed it too. galeng ng tour mo, multi-cultural hehe. met a lovely couple from germany and a very cool guy from sydney.
c.
Katrina, the French moved on and opened Palais Versailles in spite of their own Marie-Antonoinette.
While Imelda has not been sent to the guiollotine (yet!), the American jury system (which always base things on evidence), has already found out that she is not guilty of her purported crimes. As for the Philippine justice system, let the courts decide, albeit slow, not you.
With that, Marie-Antoinette would have asked you to eat cake, er pan de sal.
"IM D MOM OF BONGBONG"
Hahaha! I wish Imelda, Miriam Defensor Santiago, and Annabelle Rama would team up and do a talk show.
"After 1986, we went back to the 19th century. We brought back the landed gentry and the Catholic Church to run the country."
rightly said!!!Amen!!!
Yes, and these Catholic bishops will officiate the wedding of that Sen. Revilla daughter who had pre-marital sex but frowns on gay relationship. What gives?
Imelda's comment ' ...and I'm the mom of Bongbon' was just too hilarious!!!
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